On September 4th, 2022, the Nippon TV variety show 世界の果てまでイッテQ! (sekai no hate made itte kyū | Off you go to the ends of the earth) aired a special episode featuring the Japanese-Indonesian businesswoman, socialite, television personality and philanthropist Dewi Sukarno, widely known in Japan as デヴィ夫人 devi fujin, or Madame Dewi. She was also the third wife of former Indonesian President Sukarno.

The show was set in Dubai and featured a "Girls' Night Out" with Madame Dewi and other personalities.

Madame Dewi's views on marriage

On the show, Madame Dewi, together with models 谷まり Maria Tani, 堀田茜 Akane Hotta, and 箭内夢菜 Yumena Yanai, enjoy sightseeing in Dubai before heading to a restaurant to enjoy a sumptuous dinner.

During the meal, Hotta asks Madame Dewi the age-old question: "Which is more important, money or love?"

Taking it in stride, she replied with another question:

"If you could choose between a man whom you loved with an annual income of 2 million yen (around 13,900 USD at today's rate) and a man whom you didn't love with an annual income of 20 billion yen (around 139 million USD), which one would it be?"

Many people are faced with the choice of "taking money or taking love" when it comes to marriage.

In response to Madame Dewi's question, the three models immediately answered, "Even if the man's income is low, it's better if you love each other."

Madame Dewi laughed and rejected their answers, jokingly calling them "all idiots." But then, with a serious expression on her face, she explained her own view of things:

(If your partner's income is low), no matter how much you love them, you will always be looking at other people's lifestyles, other people's houses, other people's clothes... (and) gradually, you will lose your love for him.

But if you marry a man who earns 20 billion yen, even if you don't have love (for him), you'll have respect (for him), you'll have trust (in him).

Then, gradually, love will blossom.

From 世界の果てまでイッテQ! (Nippon TV)

Madame Dewi says that her original life was not a wealthy one. When she was in high school, she even worked to feed her family.

At the age of 17, she got a job at an exclusive club where foreign celebrities gathered, and when she was 19, she met former President Sukarno, who later became her husband.

She has experienced both poverty and wealth, and tasted both the sweet and the sour sides of life, which is why she believes that "even if you don't love your partner, your respect for and trust in them will naturally develop."

After the program aired, Madame Dewi's comments became a hot topic of conversation on the Internet, and it made many people think about marriage. For example, some of the comments were:

  • "Realistically speaking, yes, it is true. Money makes people happy."
  • "When someone succeeds in earning that much money, I suppose you trust and respect them as human beings."
  • "My own parents said something similar, but when Madame Dewi says it, it's very convincing...."

Of course, there are those who will choose love over money, even after hearing what Madame Dewi said.

Each person has his/her/their own standards. It's one of life's choices and could be the path that leads to happiness for some people and not for others.


By - grape Japan editorial staff.

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